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john jantunen's avatar

It would appear that your experience with McKee's The Story is quite similar to mine. I first read it when I was writing scripts (a decade before I switch to novels) and found it quite a revelation, as long as one is willing to put in the work. What was most gratifying about the process he outlined was just how balanced the structure it produced was (and yes, I always charted my scripts, as instructed). And to this day, I still write my "controlling idea" (or "core concept") on the first page of the notebook I've designated for whatever project I'm working on and have been pleasantly surprised, on a number of occasions, when it changed partway through (the most dramatic being when I wrote my third novel and its "False hope is better than no hope at all" flipped to become "False hope is no hope at all"). As a novelist though, I've found McKee's process to be most useful when it comes to managing complexity, which I've mostly done by using (and then subverting) the conventions of genre (be they mystery, thriller, adventure, horror and even romance, often intertwined within the same work). As a side note, Peter Rabinovitch writes in “Click Of The Spring” of how Faulkner and Dostoevsky use the conventions of the mystery novel as a means of managing the complexity requisite to any serious piece of literature. It's also well worth a read, for sure.

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Sheldon Goldfarb's avatar

Lots of stuff here to mull over. I know when I wrote my one published novel (there are many more published ones) the publisher demanded an outline. And it was a murder mystery, so it seemed reasonable to know ahead of time who the murderer was - and yet after I wrote the outline, I changed who the murderer was! And introduced a brand new major character.

Still, it's the only novel I published, so perhaps the outline was useful.

As to story being crucial, I agree. People wanted a sequel to my novel, so I conjured up the characters - but I had nothing for them to do, so the novel withered. Like that movie The Second Best Marigold Hotel, a sequel with no story to tell.

I once did what Alison did for the 3-day contest. I was very young and read a book that said for an 80,000-word novel you should write a 10,000-word outline. I did and then when I came to write the 80,000 words it was boring, mechanical.

But perhaps there is something in between, as Alison suggests. When I write my non-fiction, I like to have not an outline, but notes: key points I might want to mention. When inspiration flags, I look at the notes and think, Oh, yes, that point, let me talk about that now.

But there are no rules. I remember what Somerset Maugham said: "There are three rules for writing the novel, but nobody knows what they are."

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